Pain or Madara- Who had better motives?

Pain and Madara are two of the most iconic villains in Naruto, each with their own set of motives. Pain’s entire philosophy comes from the deep grief and loss he experienced. Losing his parents and his friends to war. He believed the only way to create peace was to make everyone feel the same suffering he went through, thinking that if people experienced enough pain, they’d finally understand the futility of war. Madara, on the other hand, was shaped by a lifetime of loss, grief, betrayal and disappointment. He kissed every person he loved through war and still agreed to make a truce to achieve peace only to then watch his clan get used as a political pawn and saw the fragile peace that was created as something doomed to fail. His vision was much broader. He wanted to control the entire world through the Infinite Tsukuyomi to put an end to war and conflict by taking away free will and forcing peace. Both had huge motivations rooted in personal experiences, but their methods couldn’t have been more different. Pains motives are probably more emotionally connecting to the audience as it can feel more relatable to the protagonist and audience, Madara ok the other hand is more philosophically complex, connecting more to the history of the shinobi world rather than one character. So, who do you think had the better motives? Who had better reasons for doing what they were doing. What’s your thoughts?

Pain and Madara are two of the most iconic villains in Naruto, each with their own set of motives. Pain’s entire philosophy comes from the deep grief and loss he experienced. Losing his parents and his friends to war. He believed the only way to create peace was to make everyone feel the same suffering he went through, thinking that if people experienced enough pain, they’d finally understand the futility of war. Madara, on the other hand, was shaped by a lifetime of loss, grief, betrayal and disappointment. He kissed every person he loved through war and still agreed to make a truce to achieve peace only to then watch his clan get used as a political pawn and saw the fragile peace that was created as something doomed to fail. His vision was much broader. He wanted to control the entire world through the Infinite Tsukuyomi to put an end to war and conflict by taking away free will and forcing peace. Both had huge motivations rooted in personal experiences, but their methods couldn’t have been more different. Pains motives are probably more emotionally connecting to the audience as it can feel more relatable to the protagonist and audience, Madara ok the other hand is more philosophically complex, connecting more to the history of the shinobi world rather than one character. So, who do you think had the better motives? Who had better reasons for doing what they were doing. What’s your thoughts?